You missed the single most important point. Probably around half of people engaging in this debate don’t care about any facts or concepts except for “winning”. It doesn’t matter how clear you’re trying to make facts or concepts, they are TOTALLY irrelevant. The vast majority of people already more or less know these facts and concepts and reminding them is just throwing fuel on the fire.

So how does a scientist explained how a population of ignorant animals can be organized to be cooperative and make it through the next Fermi Paradox filter which is probably learning how to deal with psychological manipulation in on online connected AI world, where scale and power can destroy all of us.